Thoughtful Analogy on SSM

Regarding the uproar over wedding cakes, etc., for same-sex marriages:

I like this.  It’s thoughtful.  Somebody put their thinking cap on and really noodled this out and I like that.  A lot.  Give it a read and follow the bouncing, extrapolating ball.  It’s kinda neat. Via Breitbart’s John Nolte, who’s a fave of mine over there.

 


SALLY KOHN’S SMALL BUSINESS REFUSES TO SERVE EVERYONE

April 1, 2015
By John Nolte

CNN’s Sally Kohn runs a small private for-profit business.

Indiana Bob runs a small private for-profit business.

Sally offers a product to the public as a speaker. Her product is inspirational speeches that conform to her worldview.

Bob offers a product to the public as a baker. His product is specialized wedding cakes that celebrate the holy union of marriage.

Sally is a very nice, very smart, very likable gay progressive.

Bob is a very nice, very smart, very likable practicing Muslim.

Sally will tell you she was born a lesbian.

Bob will tell you he was born a Muslim.

Sally’s speech is protected from the government by the First Amendment.

Bob’s religious faith is protected from the government by the very same First Amendment.

Because her speech is protected by the First Amendment, Sally cannot be forced by the government to alter her product — her speech — into something that violates her beliefs and conscience.

Although Bob’s religious practices and beliefs are protected by the same First Amendment, Sally is demanding the government force Bob into altering his product — a wedding cake — into something that violates Bob’s beliefs and conscience: a same-sex wedding cake.

Sally believes it is unconstitutional for the government to force her to alter her business product (inspirational speeches) in a way that violates her beliefs and her First Amendment rights.

Nevertheless, Sally also believes that freedom and equality demand the government force Bob to craft and deliver his business product (wedding cakes) in a way that violates his beliefs and First Amendment rights.

Because her speech is protected by the First Amendment, even though she offers her services to the public, the government cannot force Sally to serve everyone. For example, on her website, Sally offers to deliver “an inspiring tingle-in-your-toes speech,” but she could not be forced by the government and would not agree to offer that service to inspire or tingle anyone’s toes at a meeting of anti-abortion activists.

Nevertheless, Sally believes the product she serves the public (inspirational speeches) is more equal than the business product Bob serves the public (wedding cakes).

Thanks to her First Amendment protections, Sally does not believe she can be forced by the government to serve all of the public with her inspirational speeches.

Nevertheless, Sally believes Bob should be forced by the government to serve all of the public.

Sally believes her First Amendment speech rights are protected even when that right is turned into a for-profit business product.

Sally does not believe Bob’s First Amendment religious rights are protected when that right is turned into a for-profit business product.

Although she offers her product to the public, Bob would never dream of asking Sally to violate her First Amendment rights, her beliefs or her conscience.

Nevertheless, Sally would see the government punish Bob and the public shame Bob if he refused to violate his own First Amendment rights, his beliefs and his conscience.

Bob would never dream of trampling Sally’s First Amendment rights.

Sally wants the government to trample Bob’s First Amendment rights.

Breitbart News reached out to Sally Kohn for comment. Always a great sport, she told us…

“To be clear,” she said, “I’m talking about ‘free speech’ in principle, not law, since it doesn’t apply here. What does apply legally,” she added, “is that any business can discriminate in any way it sees fit as long as it’s not discriminating against a protected class. Period.”
Kohn wants gays to have that protected legal status.

She added, “I can’t refuse to give a speech to a group based on religion for instance. That would be illegal (and immoral). But I can refuse to give a speech based on a group’s political/issue views. Because [those groups are] not legally protected.”

“Baking a cake is not the same as speech, and when you operate under the laws of our country, you serve everyone. If I were a baker I would serve the Westboro Baptist Church. My free speech protections would protect me from writing “God Hates Fags” on the cake, but not protect me from baking the cake.”

When I asked if a Christian baker was then protected from the act of adding a same sex couple figurine and the name of the same-sex couple to the cake, she said she didn’t want to go into that.

“I don’t want to quote law,” Sally said, “but I’d be happy to refer you to a Constitutional lawyer who could explain this better than I could.”

Breitbart News politely declined the offer.

Laws can be unjust.

This is an ethical argument about who keeps and loses their First Amendment rights once that right becomes a for-profit business product.

This is about an American social compact that is supposed to go beyond the law when it comes to respecting one another’s sincerely held beliefs.

~ end ~

Post-Mortem

• I haven’t written in over a month.

• Felt sucker-punched by the election.  Ghastly result. Very worrying. I’m convinced the “spigot cities” stole it and sick nobody in leadership has the testicular fortitude to challenge at least some of these precincts. I guess we’re supposed to believe that it’s just a fantastic coincidence that the lion’s share of the stories of irregularities were in key swing precincts and they all just happened to benefit Obama…

• These are the times that try men’s souls, right? Well, I’m goin’ down swingin’, man. I haven’t come this far to lay down and die.

• Read about the map here.  And how just 333k votes in some key swing counties might have made all the difference.

*KKKrickets* for Black Tea Party Congressmen

At least they’re consistent.

HEADLINE: “BLACK TEA PARTY CANDIDATE’S SIGN DEFACED WITH ‘KKK’” (NewsBusters’ coverage here.  Breitbart here.)

I’m thinking it wasn’t a pack of racist Republicans who did it.

I’m thinkin’ it was more likely a pack of racist Democrats, p*ssed off that he left the Democrat Plantation & f*cked up their narrative… which is why NOBODY has reported it.

*crickets*

If Sarah Palin cracks a loud FART, MSNBC is wall-to-wall with how she aimed it downwind to a black neighborhood.

And by “consistent” I mean that Democrats have been the party of racism from the first, just as they are the party of identity politics now. Oh, they cloak it in benevolent paternalism, but what it really is is a disgusting, sneering sense of superiority through which they maintain power at the expense of human freedom.

What’s that?  You’re suffering from a Progressive education?  You didn’t know that it has been the Republican party, from the first, and to the last, that has been the champion of liberty & self-empowerment for black, white – ALL people, and it’s Democrats who birthed the KKK and fomented the overwhelming majority of racist hatred towards blacks in America?

You forgot that Lincoln was a Republican?  Hmmm?  You forgot it was Republicans who broke the filibuster for the Civil Rights Act?

Democrats…When are you going to wake up that your party, which once had men like JFK to recommend it, has hopelessly devolved, has spawned a host of parasitic cockroaches infesting the media & halls of power, who are dangerously messianic in their belief that they know better than you how you should live your life and are thisclose to completing a century’s work of propagandizing the Republic right out of existence?

Hmm?

OWS Rap Sheet – WOW

Gotta love that rumpled rapscallion Breitbart, donthca?  If for no other reason than he makes smoke come out of the ears of rabid lefties.

LOOK at this list (below) of Tea Part… I mean OWS malfeasance (Because we all know, Tea Party illegal activity = ZERO).

Huge, huge props to Big Government’s John Nolte for compiling it and who wants you to email him with any OWS malfeasance in your town:  jnolte@breitbart.com.

  1. NY: 10/1/2011 — Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge [4]
  2. Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation [5]
  3. Phoenix: 10/28/2011 — Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?” [6]
  4. NY: 10/18/2011 — Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters [7]
  5. NY: 10/9/2011 — Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR [8]
  6. NY: 10/7/2011 — Occupiers Rush Police [9] … More [9]
  7. Cleveland: 10/18/2011 —  ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped [10]
  8. NY: 10/10/2011 — ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street? [11]
  9. Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested [12]
  10. 10/12/2011 — Iran Supports ‘Occupy Wall Street’ [13]
  11. Portland: 10/16/2011 – #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead [14]
  12. Portland: 10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA” [15]
  13. Chicago: 10/17/2011 — COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago [16]
  14. 10/15/2011 — American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’ [17]
  15. Boston: 10/14/2011 — Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents [18]
  16. Boston: 10/11/2011 — Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston [19]
  17. New York: 10/11/2011 — “You Can Have Sex with Animals.” [20]
  18. New York: 10/15/2011 — Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries [21]
  19. New York: 10/9/2011 –  ‘Occupy Wallstreet’ Protesters Steal from Local Businesses [22]
  20. New York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting Rape[23]
  21. Baltimore:  10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting Police [24]
  22. Portland: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Portland’s Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In Theft [25]
  23. Los Angeles: 10/14/2011 – Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street [26]
  24. 10/27/2011 — A Death Threat From an Occupy Wall Street Protester [27]
  25. 10/27/2011 – Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or Sympathizer [28]
  26. Boston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn’t Want Police Involved in Rape [29]
  27. New York:  10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, Israel [30]
  28. New York: 10/4/2011 — Occupier Taunts Jewish Man [31]
  29. Boston: 10/2011 — Occupiers Block Street [32]
  30. New York: 10/2011 — Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer’s Gun [33]
  31. New York: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic [34], Get Arrested
  32. Oakland: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Throw Garbage at Police [35]
  33. Oakland:  10/19/2011 — Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent City [36]
  34. Eugene, OR: 10/19/2011 — Occupiers Displace Farmers’ Market Threatening Hundreds of Jobs [37]
  35. Portland, OR:  10/18/2011 — Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few Takers [38]
  36. NY:  10/20/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, Patrons [39]
  37. NY: 10/14/2011 — Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock Exchange [40]
  38. NY: 10/14/2011 — Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With Cops [41]
  39. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten Reporter [42]
  40. Oakland: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Scuffle with Police [43]
  41. Oakland: 10/24/2011 — Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase Bank [44]
  42. Dayton, OH: 10/22/2011 — Protester: ‘F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police’ [45]
  43. Chicago: 10/14/2011 –  Protesters’ Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: ‘Destroy Israel’ [46]
  44. NY: 10/23/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, Jews [47]
  45. NY: 10/22/2011 — #Occupy Kid: ‘Burn Wall Street, Burn!’ [48]
  46. NY: 10/21/2011 — New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating Protesters [49]
  47. Oakland:  10/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And Intimidation [50]
  48. Oakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, Sexual Harassment, Public Sex and Urination [51]
  49. Chicago: 10/26/2011 –  Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to Terrorism [52]
  50. Cleveland: 10/29/2011 — Rape Reported at Occupy Cleveland [53]
  51. Dallas: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy Dallas [54]
  52. Bloomington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bloomington Protesters Drugged, Handcuffed Him [55]
  53. NY: 10/10/2011 — Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street Protests [56]
  54. Glasgow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-Raped [57]
  55. Boston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For Dealing Heroin – With 6 Year-Old in Tent [58]
  56. Portland: 10/16/2011 –  Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as Address [59]
  57. Denver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Groping TV Photographer [60]
  58. Lawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy Camp [61]
  59. Minneapolis, MN:  Bricks, Rocks, ‘Riot Supplies’ Discovered by Police [62]
  60. Phoenix, AZ:  10/27/2011 — Neo-Nazis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With AR-15′s [63]
  61. Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Invades City Hall [64]
  62. 10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About Assault on Banks [65]
  63. 10/26/2011 –  OccupyWallStreet Strategy for Reports of Violence Against Cops [66]
  64. Chicago: 10/26/2011 — Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers Wows Occupiers [67]
  65. Chicago:  10/25/2011 — Ayers Coaches  #OccupyChicago, Callsg for School ‘Occupations’ [68]
  66. 10/26/2011/ — Occupy Protests Have Jewish Leaders Concerned [69]
  67. Wash DC: 10/27/2011 –  OccupyDC Leftists Provoke Police – Hang Flag on Top of DC Statue [70]
  68. Albuquerque, NM:  10/26/2011 — Occupy Squatters Riot With Police [71]
  69. San Diego: 10/25/2011 — Flag Used as Chew Toy by Occupier’s Dog [72]
  70. Oakland: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Throw Bottles at Police [73]
  71. NY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Threat Than Al-Qaeda [74]
  72. 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Strike in America Since 1946 [75]
  73. NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted at OWS [76]
  74. 10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750 [77]
  75. Nashville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. Protest [78]
  76. NY: 10/20/2011 — Former Marine Tries to Taunt Police into Violence [79]
  77. NY: 1023/2011 — Islamist Group Joins with Occupy Wall Street [80]
  78. Los Angeles:  10/13/2011 — Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-Semitism [81]
  79. NY: 10/12/2011 — There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This Guy [82]
  80. Missoula, MT: 10/20/2011 — Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult Arrested [83]
  81. Oakland: 10/28/2011 — Bounty Out On Police Officer? [84]
  82. Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 – Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rally [85]
  83. San Diego: 10/28/2011 – 40 Occupiers arrested [86]
  84. Boston: 10/24/2011 — Occupy Boston Vandalism of Banks [87]
  85. Boston: 10/25/2011 – Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston Began [88]
  86. Portland: 10/28/2011 — Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland Camp [89]
  87. Seattle: 10/20/2011 — Two Possible Occupiers Charged With Assault [90]
  88. Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Armed Felon Arrested at Occupy Seattle [91]
  89. Seattle: 10/18/2011 — A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy Seattle [92]
  90. Seattle: 10/17/2011 — Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight Arrests [93]
  91. Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Cops Arrest Several Occupy Protesters [94]
  92. Seattle: 10/13/2011 — Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two [95]
  93. Denver: 10/29/2011 — Protesters Clash with Police at OWS Denver [96]
  94. Austin: 10/13/2011 – Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning Crews [97]
  95. Calgary, CN: 10/28/2011 — Occupiers do $40,000 in Property Damage [98]
  96. Cincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 — 23 Arrested, Remains of  protests fill two dumpsters [99]
  97. Sacramento: 10/19/2011 – 9 arrested in ‘Occupy Sacramento’ protest [100]
  98. Sacramento: 10/13/2011 – Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators Arrested [101]
  99. Austin, TX: 10/22/2011 – Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin Camp [102]
  100. Nashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight Night [103]